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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 935692, member: 716"] Not to mention that the penalty is a self-funding proposition - threat of a fine will compel most to comply; violators' fines will help defray cost of enforcement and maybe help city clear more public property; and threat of a fine would drive some people who aren't fit to own property out of that business (property ownership is not, of course, a right or even a an appropriate situation for some people). Bob didn't control the message well, but good for him for giving it a try. I don't think we've heard the last of this issue from him. And good for Khalid Bey for giving his vote to the cause. He's come off badly, in my opinion, on this stadium matter, but he was right on the sidewalks penalty. [/QUOTE]