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Message: [QUOTE="007, post: 4925249, member: 393"] Good points Bomber. Except for maybe the use of "sometimes bad." Over the past 24 seasons we have had [B]6 [/B]winning seasons. Like it or not, we've earned most of the shade. And yes, it does snow in Syracuse. When you look for shade and disrespect everywhere you will seldom be disappointed. Instead, the focus, IMO, should be on how we are finally starting the process of changing national perceptions. Fran has been like catching lightening a bottle for a moribund program. We should embrace the abyss - it makes the climb back up that much sweeter. [/QUOTE]