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Message: [QUOTE="Dave, post: 2559218, member: 1226"] Can't agree with you. Talent on the court isn't measured by stars apportioned in a guesstimate of future success. We all know FH's struggles. He impoved dramatically and exceeded the expectations of most. He is still a fairly slow and lackadaisical performer, as measured against top PG's. His handle was careless all too often. Battle was great, OB was great. Put it this way. Using your formula, stack us up against Duke. We were in that game, just about to the end. Yes. Incredible overacheivers due to a style of plqy which allowed for it. Great coaching. [/QUOTE]