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Message: [QUOTE="DeGrozz, post: 1080286, member: 205"] What timelines did I post for 10 years? Seems strange, because I would guess that we're probably generations off from becoming a world soccer power (if everything break right for us). We've made huge progress over the last 20 to 30 years and taken tons of steps, but the last few are always the hardest and it looks like its quite a ways off. The post you referred to was really made about the way these threads always go. There's a lot of evidence about the growth of the sport in this country, but the anti-soccer crowd seems to completely ignore any facts about the growth of the game and solely base their side of the conversation on uninformed opinions. No offense, but earlier you were posting about the difference of the qualities between the MLS and EPL and how terrible the MLS was without ever watching any of the games. ESPN ratings are up 44% from the last world cup but to marginalize that it's said "viewing is up somewhat" and only because the times are much more "convenient" this year, even though the past two world cups have primarily been played during american office hours. Another sport that is surprisingly growing a lot in the US is cycling. Tour de France ratings are rebounding, cycling participation across the US is growing quite fast and amateur road races are popping up everywhere. If anyone posted about the growth of the sport, most people who aren't interested in it would think "ok" and move on. When it comes to soccer however, it seems people get really bitter about the sport and try to marginalize the progress it is making in the country, without really being able to back up their claims. That's all I'm referring to. It wasn't a comment directly meant for you though. Edit: I should also add with the "dear american football" title -- I don't see soccer ever surpassing football in this country. But like I've said earlier with our population and economy, it doesn't need to. Heck, football and the MLS have different seasons that barely overlap and the European games are usually over before college football and NFL kick off during the fall/winter. [/QUOTE]

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