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Message: [QUOTE="WoadBlue, post: 5321018, member: 1145"] BY the way, Florida State began as the girl's state college for FL. UF is both the Flagship and Land Grant. Miami is a private school. Clemson is the Land Grant in SC, with SoCar as the Flagship. The ACC now has 3 Flagships (UNC, UVA, and Cal), and 3 Land Grants (Clemson, NCSU, and VT). In contrast, 16 of 18 BT schools (all but the private schools Northwestern and SC) are Flagship and/or Land Grant, while 15 of 16 SEC schools (all but lone Private school Vandy) are Flagship and/or Land Grant. That is a massive disparity. It is a huge handicap. Having a whole bunch of Private schools makes it worse. [/QUOTE]