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Message: [QUOTE="wfschrec, post: 753912, member: 361"] Sorry but winning is the biggest thing bees ... because it feeds into that dozen or so years of blah football you referred to. I also know tailgating is a big part of college ball ... I see it here in grand scale ... the issue here is at times it is extremely difficult to do because even those who don't have tickets want to participate. But again I wouldn't let that affect my decision to see a ball game ... if I don't go to a game because I am not satisfied with my tailgate experience my priorities have run afoul ... I do agree on the Metlife situation to some degree ... but while it was a grab at money one could look at it as a knee jerk reaction to offset a dwindling attendance ... if they were packing the house each night would that move even be necessary ... if I'm a marquee opponent do I want to play in a half empty Dome or NYC? I can however understand how it would not make a local fan happy but lets not pretend we never did stuff like this before ... hell we pasted Wisky in the Meadowlands KJ's senior year ... this wasn't a completely new concept. As far as the donation structure while that does suck, you are then telling me that $2 is what separates you from the next guy ... at some point you have to draw a line in the sand and separate the donation levels ... so if it were $10K and a guy was pledging $9999 then he would be pissed ... you have to draw a line somewhere but if all it took were an extra $2, I will call up my former employer and advocate they make up that difference in pay so you can make the jump. In other words your citing a $2 dollar difference in donation structure ... moving games to NYC when we have done it in the past (albiet not with this frequency) ... and the fact that the team wasn't winning in front of our future fan base as a reason that people aren't going. Fair enough that tells me for at least two of those issues ... the root of it was winning ... the donations are another story and while it sucks it broke down that way ... I don't see the "casual fan" being affected by this do you? [/QUOTE]

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