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Message: [QUOTE="AZOrange, post: 782804, member: 278"] You're jumping around a bit here...we got smacked around through the air last year. We've been getting smacked again this year. Sat had little to do with the dbacks. But they've been bad (and were not very good last year). Look I want us to get better. But we néed to be honest about the situation. Look we're not as bad as GRob...but the last 4 years were a bit of a mirage. I posted it before but I think under marrone we were something like 11-17 in conf (which wasn't that good to start with). We're barely competitive with middle teams. Back to the point, a lot of problems is coaching. The scheme is horrible. But it's not all that... [/QUOTE]