Derek turns 38 in June

[CaliCuse]

He won't come back for his 40th. The arithmetic is pretty simple. He is way too proud and smart to pull a Jorge.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

He's under contract for two more seasons, with an $8.0 million player option ($3.0 million buyout) for 2014.

At some point he'll be playing more DH and less SS.

 

[CaliCuse]

He's under contract for two more seasons, with an $8.0 million player option ($3.0 million buyout) for 2014.

At some point he'll be playing more DH and less SS.

Yeah forgot about that but Derek is very proud If anything slows down too much he will go! DH probably is in his future. They have a couple kids n the farm hoping to get their chance once the HOFer goes into the sunset. A sad day for Yankee fans The last of the one digit numbers in Yankee historyWe need a new set of numbers like 1.A 2A. Geesh 3A?,7B OK thats nuts I know.:bat:

 

[Ghost]

He's under contract for two more seasons, with an $8.0 million player option ($3.0 million buyout) for 2014.

At some point he'll be playing more DH and less SS.

He's another Yankee that makes a living on bad pitching. I don't know, love the guy to death, and over 162 games his numbers will probably be okay (for a SS, not necessarily for a DH), but once we hit the playoffs and face great pitching every game he'll be relatively ineffective.

 

[br801]

He's another Yankee that makes a living on bad pitching. I don't know, love the guy to death, and over 162 games his numbers will probably be okay (for a SS, not necessarily for a DH), but once we hit the playoffs and face great pitching every game he'll be relatively ineffective.

Everyone, Yankee or not, makes their numbers against "bad pitching" over the course of a season. It's just how it works. Sure, you might find a few exceptions, but over the long term any day-to-day player will hit "bad" pitchers better than
"good" pitchers.

And postseason performance in baseball is a crapshoot mostly because you're dealing with very small sample sizes. That's why relatively obscure players often become "stars" in the postseason and why true stars sometimes put up awful numbers.

 

[Ghost]

Everyone, Yankee or not, makes their numbers against "bad pitching" over the course of a season. It's just how it works. Sure, you might find a few exceptions, but over the long term any day-to-day player will hit "bad" pitchers better than
"good" pitchers.

And postseason performance in baseball is a crapshoot mostly because you're dealing with very small sample sizes. That's why relatively obscure players often become "stars" in the postseason and why true stars sometimes put up awful numbers.

I agree to a certain extent, but I would imagine what differentiates a guy that hits .310 over the course of a season and a guy that hits .280 is the ability to hit better pitching consistently.

I think of late it seems like the Yankees 15 Million dollar men are exposed in the playoffs when they 're facing top-tier pitching far more (especially guys ++ fastballs).

 

[Stern]

He's another Yankee that makes a living on bad pitching.

The Yankees are the ONLY team in MLB that faces bad pitching? Interesting notion ya got there.

 

[Ghost]

The Yankees are the ONLY team in MLB that faces bad pitching? Interesting notion ya got there.

Yeah, they are. Obviously. Because Derek Jeter and the Yankees face a different set of pitchers than everyone else in MLB. It's quite amazing really. Congrats on being dense.

 

[Stern]

Yeah, they are. Obviously. Because Derek Jeter and the Yankees face a different set of pitchers than everyone else in MLB. It's quite amazing really. Congrats on being dense.

You got called out for a foolish stance and now you are calling others names. Real mature

 

[mountaincuse]

He's another Yankee that makes a living on bad pitching. I don't know, love the guy to death, and over 162 games his numbers will probably be okay (for a SS, not necessarily for a DH), but once we hit the playoffs and face great pitching every game he'll be relatively ineffective.

Career numbers:

regular season: .317 .388 .462 postseason: .314 .384 .479

I wouldn't say losing three percentage points equals ineffectiveness. Granted the post-season number has decreased as he has aged but not to long ago his playoff average was up in the .320 range.

Maybe he doesn't seem as good as others in the payoffs nowadays because he is there so much and he has a much larger sample size?

 

[Ghost]

Career numbers:

regular season: .317 .388 .462 postseason: .314 .384 .479

I wouldn't say losing three percentage points equals ineffectiveness. Granted the post-season number has decreased as he has aged but not to long ago his playoff average was up in the .320 range.

Maybe he doesn't seem as good as others in the payoffs nowadays because he is there so much and he has a much larger sample size?

It's a fair point, and my point isn't (and never was) that Jeter was some horrendous player that falls off the map during the playoffs (historically he's been incredibly clutch). It's also not a point I'm the first to make, but against teams like the Twins in the playoffs, a team without elite starting pitching, guys that rely on off-speed stuff, Jeter is fine, but against teams like Detroit who can roll out hard throwing top end guys each day in a short series, the Yankees big money guys tend to struggle a bit more.

Tex, ARod, Jeter. It's not just Jeter.

If you're team isn't built to bludgeon you to death with big innings, not a big deal. You're not a team that plays for the big inning - you're slapping the ball around and using speed, etc...If you're team is built upon big innings like the Yankees or Phillies tend to be, it becames slightly more concerning in a short series. I guess I may not be explaining it well. Again, it's a point lots of people have made on talk radio as well - it's nothing new, just might be explaining it poorly.

It's also baseball, so it could just be bad luck. Who knows. Maybe Tex and ARod suck in the playoffs because they're chokers, and it's as simple as that. Or they just hit a string of bad match-ups. I mean, Posada looked like a 24 year old in the playoffs last year - can't really explain that away because his bat speed was non-existent most of the year.

 

[mountaincuse]

Agree with that point for sure and that's why I didn't like that matchup going into the playoffs. Short series with that staff doesn't bode well for the yanks.

The big inning theory pretty much nails it though - the problem for the yanks is that their two worst hitters in the postseason are the two that are supposed to drive in the big inning runs.

I don't think adding Ibanez is going to help that either.

 

[Ghost]

Agree with that point for sure and that's why I didn't like that matchup going into the playoffs. Short series with that staff doesn't bode well for the yanks.

The big inning theory pretty much nails it though - the problem for the yanks is that their two worst hitters in the postseason are the two that are supposed to drive in the big inning runs.

I don't think adding Ibanez is going to help that either.

They already added Ibanez?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the framework for a deal between the Yankees and Raul Ibanez, worth $1 million plus incentives over one year, is in place.

 

[mountaincuse]

They already added Ibanez?

Waiting for the AJ trade to be official and then they are going to sign Ibanez and Chavez for around a mil each, or so I have heard

 

[Ghost]

Waiting for the AJ trade to be official and then they are going to sign Ibanez and Chavez for around a mil each, or so I have heard

I like Chavez, injury prone, but a solid ballplayer. Seems like a fair price for what he can contribute - 50 games, and an injury or two. lol