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Message: [QUOTE="Newhouse_83, post: 3017892, member: 7139"] This has been a great discussion. No doubt that Messere was a tremendous HS coach whose program spawned some incredible players and outstanding coaches, and I'm glad you cited a number I had not been aware were Wildcats -- I've been out of NYS for 10 years now, and out of CNY for 20. Agreed that *two* WG guys on a staff would be great ... but it's not a good idea in 2019 that that 60 percent of our coaching staff (if we include RSIII and Scaramuzzino) played and coached under the same two guys for most of their careers. And when staffer no. 4 went to high school on the other side of the county, but played and coached for the same guy at the same college as the first three, staffer no. 5 looks like a world traveler because he's coached in Cortland County and the North Country, and Ohio 20 years ago and Illinois for a summer. :) It's still amazing to look at that '83 roster and think that the team that beat mighty JHU in one of the greatest games ever played was, essentially, the WGHS alumni association plus a (tremendous) player from Yorktown. It would seem almost automatic that the HC at a D-1 title contender would have at least one, and possibly two, people on staff who had some legit ties to another another lacrosse hotbed. Hypothetical, because he doesn't coach in a recruiting hotbed ... yet: A resume like Liam Banks' makes a ton of sense -- played HS downstate and certainly still has some connections he could easily expand, now runs a program out of state, but still understands the advantages and challenges that SU has -- as opposed to three guys who played at the same high school, played at the same college and coached at the same college. A final thought: Our "peer" programs, in SU's heyday, were Hopkins and UVa (and maybe UNC), then Princeton, and a little later Duke. Strong company. Today, it seems the school we most seem like, in terms of expected results, is Cornell. We'll be ranked, we'll be a little under the radar because we're pretty far north, we'll perform decently against a tough schedule, we're a good bet to make the tournament and we usually have the horses who could do some damage. I can see some people being OK with that. Heck, I might be OK with that. All that said, it's far better to be having a discussion like this than "how do we rebuild a program after G-Rob?" [/QUOTE]

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