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Message: [QUOTE="Stealth4785, post: 3026914, member: 7292"] I used Princeton as an example because I feel comparing Bill Tierney and John Desko would be comparing apples to apples. Both Hall of Fame coaches, in a traditional powerhouse school; just happened that Tierney left to start anew again and has had some good level of success already. If you noticed, Princeton's last tournament appearance was in 2012; two seasons after Tierney left, indicating that Bates had some success with the recruits Tierney had brought in. Starsia leaving UVA with Lars Tiffany coming in would be, in my opinion, too soon to really use as an example of change due to the same idea that Tiffany is still reaping the successful recruiting of Starsia. As pointed out, Tambroni took nine years to build Penn State into what it is today, but still didn't make it to Championship weekend. I can't imagine what our fan base would look like after a nine year rebuild. [/QUOTE]