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Message: [QUOTE="orangenirvana, post: 514216, member: 156"] I think buttgers stinks and will continue to stink probably for eternity. But imo you're both overestimating the Big Ten. Obviously the top teams like Ohio State and Michigan are much better than the Big East's top teams (at least on a consistent basis), which will prevent buttgers from ever coming even remotely close to competing for a BCS bowl birth. But the rest are generally the same level as the BE. Meaning, if a program is a middle-of-the-pack BE program, they will also be a middle-of-the-pack B1G team. [/QUOTE]