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[QUOTE="DilemaCuse, post: 5310303, member: 7621"]
I hear Red defenders saying, "he needs time to get his guys in, 3 years at least"

Ok, he was instrumental in landing JB's best recruiting class ever. We didnt portal that offseason, which was suicidal and insiders talked about a 2 year plan. That team was just above .500 and led to JB being removed.

Red could have cleaned house when he inherited the job, but he didnt except for JG3, so those were his guys since he played a part in recruiting them. This is not the case of an outside hire being stuck with inheriting a bad roster. He ran it back with them for their soph year. Jessie wasnt able to be retained, Red doesnt deserve the full blame for that obviously but he added some pieces he wanted, JJ and Chance.

First Year missed tournament, that 2 year plan was a failure, it got JB fired and then all but Bell from that recruiting class was gone. Red adds Choppa and Donnie, portals in the rest for this years roster and here we are 0-8 vs the P5.  [B]For the 2nd year these are his guys.[/B]

Next year will be Year 3 of his guys (if he gets it) at what point do we stop with that silly statement?
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