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Message: [QUOTE="Cusefan95, post: 5314653, member: 173"] What are “real expectations to win”? That’s really fuzzy. Give something more concrete than “real expectations of winning”. My opinion if we keep Red - anything less than a top 4 seed in the NCAA tourney isn’t winning enough. It’s going to require that good of a year to wash off the stink of this year and repair Red’s brand. We won’t fire him if he scrapes out a #10 seed - but the chance that would be anything other than a dead cat bounce which just delays the inevitable and pointlessly wastes another year or two is low. And I don’t care what the roster looks like - top 4 seed or keeping him around will prove out to be the wrong decision. Period. [/QUOTE]