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Message: [QUOTE="phil77, post: 4578913, member: 1169"] UNC and Duke are loaded with talent and hired internally to keep the wheel moving. Will it work? Who knows but we are not at that stage now. Are wheels are totally off and we need something more than someone who can just keep the car going. We need a entire new engine before we can put wheels on again. Like you said in 2015 that was the time to promote from within when we still had momentum as a program and we could have hired Hop to maintain that but this isn't 2015 and it will not work this time. No matter who good of a person Red is he will not be able to rebuild the entire program. We need someone with experience building a program back up and running a program to make the changes necessary. [/QUOTE]