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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4569553, member: 5685"] My point is you need 36 at large teams. Then the first four out and next four gets you up to 44 teams. The committee is not taking teams like Oral Roberts, Liberty, Iona, etc over us. Neither will they take teams like Ohio State, Washington State, or other majors with a lot of Ls over us. Also are they really going to fall for the NET ranking manipulation of the MWC again? That conference should never get more than 2 teams again. They have been awful in the NCAAT. Which could eliminate a few of teams. So where are the 40 at large teams clearly ahead of SU, should we get to 21 Ws? IMO getting to 21 Ws will put us in the conversation. We will fall short but at least we make the bubble. [/QUOTE]