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Message: [QUOTE="Newhouser, post: 3555316, member: 5155"] So what is your cut off for change? And if we can't ever recruit we should join the Patriot League. We have opted in to participate in the realm of big time college football, and if you commit to something like this you have to commit to winning. The we are good enough and let's just take the $ attitude is horrendous and more embarrassing than Saturday's performance. SU takes the money - it is their responsibility to put the best product they can on the filed every year and if this is the best product we can field - we need to reassess. [/QUOTE]