Different logistics for the Louisville game...

[cto]

Just got his message from SU.

In consideration of the Yom Kippur holiday worship at Hendricks Chapel, quad activities for the October 3rd football game between Syracuse and Louisville in the Dome have been moved.
Specifically, quad activities will held in the north area of the Carrier Dome between Gate D and Heroy. The marching band will perform on the east side of the Dome near Irving Ave. Foot traffic will be re-routed around the quad and Hendricks Chapel to ensure a quiet and respectful environment for worshipers.

With your assistance, we can create an environment where both events can occur simultaneously. Thank you for your partnership in making the University a truly inclusive place.

 

[FAL]

Send 'em down to the Fine Lot!

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

If we beat Louisville that night, can we lift Scott Shafer on a chair?

 

[Frozen]

Cue borderline anti-Semitic remarks in 4...3...2...1...

 

[CusefanATL]

My apologies I missed this thread CTO.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

Get them in the Dome! We can sing the Dreidel song at half-time.

Also, obligatory Cartman when discussing Judaism.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

If we beat Louisville that night, can we lift Scott Shafer on a chair?

Bris for MVP.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

Cue borderline anti-Semitic remarks in 4...3...2...1...

 

[Doctor44]

I think this is unfortunately something people are going to have get past. Every few years, SU will be playing a football game on this Yom Kippur weekend. Similarly, the basketball team has played games on Good Friday.

The University is not associated with a religious group, despite a significant portion of their students or staff being followers of a particular faith. The 3rd is not an academic holiday, and all classes and extra-curricular activities go on.

Following a Faith is a personal decision. It is up to the student athlete or fan has to remove themselves from the activity and is not a University matter. I'm sure self denial and focus on Faith is an important part of the weekend and moving a game wouldn't really further one's Faith journey anyhow.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but it's going to happen every few years. It shouldn't be a big deal every year that it happens. If something is more important than football, than it is up to the individual to recognize that.

 

[Frozen]

Every year, SU will be playing a football game on this Yom Kippur weekend.

It's not necessarily always on a weekend. Next year I think it is Wed/Thurs.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

It's not necessarily always on a weekend. Next year I think it is Wed/Thurs.

Tues Sept 22 and Wed Sept 23.

 

[Doctor44]

It's not necessarily always on a weekend. Next year I think it is Wed/Thurs.

Fixed - thanks

 

[CuseOnly]

Seems reasonable.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Cue borderline anti-Semitic remarks in 4...3...2...1...

You think there are that many democrats here??

 

[SUOrange44]

I think this is unfortunately something people are going to have get past. Every few years, SU will be playing a football game on this Yom Kippur weekend. Similarly, the basketball team has played games on Good Friday.

The University is not associated with a religious group, despite a significant portion of their students or staff being followers of a particular faith. The 3rd is not an academic holiday, and all classes and extra-curricular activities go on.

Following a Faith is a personal decision. It is up to the student athlete or fan has to remove themselves from the activity and is not a University matter. I'm sure self denial and focus on Faith is an important part of the weekend and moving a game wouldn't really further one's Faith journey anyhow.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but it's going to happen every few years. It shouldn't be a big deal every year that it happens. If something is more important than football, than it is up to the individual to recognize that.

Understood to some extent but this game is literally scheduled on the one Friday night for an entire calendar year that most people of the Jewish faith will not be able to attend...

The fact of the matter is that if the University got any indication that the scheduling of a game would seriously interfere with attendance (ie the move of the Villanova game) or significantly inconvenience many members of the fan base (ie a Christmas Eve tilt) they would not be afraid to exact influence.

This, hopefully, is a move completely dictated by TV and involvement in a southern conference. I personally hope SU did everything it could to avoid this conflict. I can assure you it has disappointed many of the faithful including some who are significant donors.

It is a choice to follow a faith and it is one that, unfortunately, will keep me out of The Dome that night. Just understand that it is quite disappointing when you follow a team around the country, eat, drink and breathe Orange, have multiple season tickets, etc. and then are placed in a position where you have to choose between a game and the most important holiday of the year for your faith.

The regularity of this potential conflict is not as regular as the original post guessed.

SUOrange44

 

[HtownOrange]

Understood to some extent but this game is literally scheduled on the one Friday night for an entire calendar year that most people of the Jewish faith will not be able to attend...

The fact of the matter is that if the University got any indication that the scheduling of a game would seriously interfere with attendance (ie the move of the Villanova game) or significantly inconvenience many members of the fan base (ie a Christmas Eve tilt) they would not be afraid to exact influence.

This, hopefully, is a move completely dictated by TV and involvement in a southern conference. I personally hope SU did everything it could to avoid this conflict. I can assure you it has disappointed many of the faithful including some who are significant donors.

It is a choice to follow a faith and it is one that, unfortunately, will keep me out of The Dome that night. Just understand that it is quite disappointing when you follow a team around the country, eat, drink and breathe Orange, have multiple season tickets, etc. and then are placed in a position where you have to choose between a game and the most important holiday of the year for your faith.

The regularity of this potential conflict is not as regular as the original post guessed.

SUOrange44

Well stated. I believe Syracuse has a history of trying not offend religious observations in scheduling. I trust this is one they could not avoid (conference and TV alignment) rather than forgetting the thoughtfulness of years gone by. Please know that none of us true Orange fans will think less of any faithful who miss this or any other game to observe their faith.

 

[Stevenson]

Jewish Landscapers have two reasons not to attend the Louisville game. Their faith and their rakes. If Yom Kipper every falls during the NYS Fair, there will be a competing holy trinity.

 

[orangehomer]

you cant appease the interest of every group. when I was a freshman at UB I had never even heard of yom kippur or rash Hashanah. its important to certain people and I respect that, but it is just another day to me.

 

[llandz]

Oh sh*## this game is on the day of atonement? That means I can't swear during the game.

Actually shows you how good of a Jew I am. I didn't even notice that the game was on erev (eve) of Yom Kippur. I was planning to do a game watch in Phoenix that night. Thanks for pointing this fact out to one of the board Jews.

As far as having the game on this night, I have to say it is akin to a game on Christmas or Easter. It is the most holy of days for the Jewish faith. My husband will not turn on a TV during this holiday. Of course if there is a good world series game on or something else he wants to watch, he has his slightly less religious wife turn it on for him. I would hope that the University looked into moving the game to Saturday night which would have worked much better with respecting the holiday and the large Jewish student body. I know this has been done in the past for Yom Kippur. But I also know that sports games get played on all days, even Christmas, so I am at least pleased that the school has moved activities in respect to those who will be attending services on Friday night in Hendricks chapel.

 

[dasher]

You think there are that many democrats here??

LOL You really think dems make more anti-Semetic remarks than repubs? I guess you have never been down south. It's actually a sport down there.

 

[dollarbill44]

Understood to some extent but this game is literally scheduled on the one Friday night for an entire calendar year that most people of the Jewish faith will not be able to attend...

The fact of the matter is that if the University got any indication that the scheduling of a game would seriously interfere with attendance (ie the move of the Villanova game) or significantly inconvenience many members of the fan base (ie a Christmas Eve tilt) they would not be afraid to exact influence.

This, hopefully, is a move completely dictated by TV and involvement in a southern conference. I personally hope SU did everything it could to avoid this conflict. I can assure you it has disappointed many of the faithful including some who are significant donors.

It is a choice to follow a faith and it is one that, unfortunately, will keep me out of The Dome that night. Just understand that it is quite disappointing when you follow a team around the country, eat, drink and breathe Orange, have multiple season tickets, etc. and then are placed in a position where you have to choose between a game and the most important holiday of the year for your faith.

The regularity of this potential conflict is not as regular as the original post guessed.

SUOrange44

Well, there is always conversion to Christianity. An hour or two service on holidays allows for plenty of time for sporting events. Plus, you get to go to heaven when you die and our holidays tend to be centered on more happy times (birth, resurrection, people going to heaven, etc).

I kid, I kid. Unfortunately, sometimes sport has to take a back seat to things more important, which is the case here (imo) for my Jewish friends. I remember having to miss sporting events on Good Friday when I was younger, so I feel your pain.

 

[cuseincincy]

First of all I'm pretty sure it was TV driven and strongly encouraged by the conference. I go to NFL games on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. I understand that religions celebrate/observe differently. But SU is not affiliated with any religion so I would be surprised if it entered into a business decision.

 

[upperdeck]

I know I am out of the loop.. Syracuse has a large Jewish contingent how many of them follow the faith in a strict fashion.. I know lots of Jewish people who dont take the religious meanings to the full letter, just like many people go to Church but do other things on Sundays or who celebrate easter/xmas but that doesn't mean they dont do things those days.