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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 3591315, member: 78"] I know nothing here, kids sports I watch are nine year olds who are trying terrible. (My son is good at everything simply because he actually tries and he watches games and has the slightest idea of what actual good players do . Unfortunately genes eventually matter, sucks for you, kid) There are lots of suburban pay to play programs in Rochester to make decent kids pretty good (baseball, lax, soccer). But I don't think any of these kids are high level college football athletes. I don't know how poorer kids in other states develop so much better than here. I am skeptical of the athleticism of lacrosse guys. I don't see that many that look like d1 football players. The guys who are big and fast enough, I don't know if they even exist and if so what they're playing. Its baffling. [/QUOTE]