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Message: [QUOTE="nzm136, post: 3516425, member: 2531"] In fairness, the defense isn’t bad, so he’s halfway there. Also in fairness, he’s had 1 good offensive year since he’s been here, which probably had more to do with a really good senior QB than anything else. Point being the players drove it, and turnover is high in college. Talent on a roster can change quickly. He can still win if he gets good players. (Don’t get me wrong. I hear you, and blaming recruiting in year 5 doesn’t work. My point isn’t meant to refute what you wrote. It’s more to give a reason to believe in the hope of Hawaiian unicorn magic.) [/QUOTE]