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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 2714581, member: 628"] Since 2002. I don’t care if you have Don Draper running marketing, a lousy product is a lousy product, and that’s what SU football has been for much of the past 2 decades. SU knows how to put their thumb on the scale and pop a 42K+ crowd. They’ve done it several times before in recent years. If the team beats Pitt then the crowd for UNC will be OK. Beat UNC and the crowd for NC State be even better. Beat NC State and Wake and the crowd for UL, on a Friday night, will be excellent. Note the need for winning. Winning is the best marketing. [/QUOTE]