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Message: [QUOTE="Crusty, post: 1578884, member: 2265"] And I think you are wrong. All of it addressed your point that, based on the Frost offer, that they were being competitive. You brought up the last three hires as a reference points, not me. That first time hire passed on your "significantly more" offer. I suspect he could care less what others were offered in the past. (Maybe we should stop going after first timers.) The issue is whether or not the admin is willing to pay the going rate - for whomever. So far, they are 0-1. Spin it however you want, but they just got outbid. That is the marketplace telling you need to re-calibrate. We are not a program that gets everything it wants. Hopefully, they will take a different tack with the next guy and land him. If they do I will applaud them for a job well done. We'll see soon enough. [/QUOTE]