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Message: [QUOTE="Ish88888, post: 2618704, member: 5559"] No, don't agree. Coming off our schedule last year that'sa rough assessment. Wait til this year after losing the 2 best wideouts, tip 4 lbs, and a backup qb who was a team leader. He will either be in the 40's or 110's. That's just how pivotal the year is and it might be a rough assessment. A healthy ED and some emergence from the young receivers and OL popping and i see 8-4. That said, 4-8 has arguments made for it too. Lastly, think this 81 ranking is based on the team's debacle in the last 3rd of the season. Fair or unfair, a good part of it reflects on dino, yes, the defensive meltdown the last 2 years while he still attempts to prove the T2 can work at this level. [/QUOTE]