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Message: [QUOTE="Nicknack, post: 3518408, member: 1003"] "Babers wanted the TOs for the offense" Huh?? I would never pretend to know an ounce of football compared to Babers. However, saving timeouts for the offense is just plain stupid (and he knows that). At least on O you can do something about stopping the clock. He has still failed to answer for throwing in the towel other than it was highly unlikely we were going to win. That is still unacceptable today as much as it was on Saturday. I'd like someone to ask the question a little differently... something like, even if it is highly unlikely (like winning the lottery), what message do you think it sends your team and diehard SU fans when you don't even try at the end? That all said, we need so badly to win on Saturday to get all of this crud behind us. Sadly though, this is a stain on Babers that only comes off through wins. [/QUOTE]