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Message: [QUOTE="LeMoyneCuse, post: 3567169, member: 158"] Again, what people think I'm trying to say and what I'm actually trying to say are two different things. And has led to a rush to explain something to me that I very clearly understand. Please stop trying to explain to me that some guys just don't have it. Not needed. My point is not "why do we recruit guys and they don't work out?" My point is that schools in our peer group consistently seem to find enough guys who are both good athletes and are committed to what is being asked of them for the team to go 6-6 at a minimum. It's year 5 of the Babers era, and that hasn't happened here. For a coach that preaches culture as much as Babers, that's a red flag to me. [/QUOTE]