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[QUOTE="PhatOrange, post: 4421482, member: 229"]
You need to throw the trainer out of the equation because clearing someone to play and that someone being able to play effectively are two different things.

I understand what you're saying, but he was noticeably limping after Clemson and then we heard he was in a boot all week.  Coaches would know the extent of the injury and if he was practicing and how well he was practicing.

There are a bunch of scenarios here, just spitballing a few:

If he practiced and practiced effectively then obviously start him.

If he practiced and his practice was so so and it's a game time decision then you have to monitor his play.

If he didn't practice last week then see above.

They went with him, it didn't take long - a quarter at most - to see he was not going to be effective.  It was really eye opening that he only half assed trying to tackle the guy who jumped his throw.  That is NOT like Shrader to not even try.  Huge red flag.

I personally also think they knew ahead of time because he did NOT call his number at all on any RPO's.  That was a red flag.  I assume this was be design they didn't want him pulling the ball and they were going to just try and lean on the threat of it.  He was hurting on his one RPO, it was noticeable and the 4th down play was the icing on the cake.  He 100% of the time would've easily run around that End and picked up the first down.  He wanted no part of trying to run for it.  He should have been pulled earlier.
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