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Message: [QUOTE="dasher, post: 4322253, member: 6061"] It's funny how we look back on some coaches and forget that Coach Mac, with a much easier schedule, was pretty pathetic for his first 6 years. At the time, there was the sac mac group. And Coach Marrone, go back to midway through his last year. We finished strong, yes, but the vultures were circling midway through his last year. I am not going to defend Babers. I think he is just about the worst game manager I have seen. But he does have other areas where I think he is good. I am hopeful that he lets these new O coaches coach. I hope that he gets some help with his clock management (doubtful on that). It appears to me that we have some strong units. Hopefully that gets us at least 6 wins and it is the start of something. If not, there will be a change at some point. Sooner rather than later. [/QUOTE]