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Message: [QUOTE="SoBeCuse, post: 1249341, member: 796"] Why? Everybody is just telling it how it is. Certainly, IF, one chooses to remove orange goggles (not easy here) one can see that he has the worst +/- on the team, his court demeanor/pouting leaves much to be desired, and his defense is not up to par. Yes, he is a beast in pick in roll but that is all he really does well. Look, I have always been a fan of his and have pretty much seen every game living here in the Cleveland area. OKC could be a fantastic spot and role for him. We'll see how he responds. [/QUOTE]