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Dion removed from starting lineup...ugh.

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CJ Miles starting. Should be fun watching Wall, Beal, Kyrie, Dion...
 
Saw that one coming. Sucks. Really like Dion particularly in the NBA. He needs a strong coach though.

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They are getting BLOWN out at home. Drawing boos. Haven't heard those before. Whatever Brown is trying ain't working.
 
Brown needs to go and dion needs new scenery. Dont care for irving at all let alone he is a bad backcourt companion for dion.
 
Dion is the master at taking momentum killing ill advised shots. He also can really produce and help his team win. Kyrie can also jack some ill advised shots, the difference being, he's a superstar and can put the team on his back.
 
longislandcuse said:
Cavs are a mess. Kyrie ain't playing all that great either.

Still don't see how Dion and Kyrie coexist. Dion needs a new team.
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I still want to see Dion as a PG on another team. Chris Grant is getting serious heat in town for the picks of Thompson/Waiters/Bennett. Bennett is so bad.
 
Orangezoo said:
Brown needs to go and dion needs new scenery. Dont care for irving at all let alone he is a bad backcourt companion for dion.
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One could say the opposite as well. Bottom line is it's clear now that they are too similar. Kyrie is better and both are bad at defense.
 
SoBeCuse said:
CJ Miles starting. Should be fun watching Wall, Beal, Kyrie, Dion...
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Cavs are dumb and lazy. Unfortunately Dion has a role in that. Talented, but he has a lot to learn on both ends of the court.
 
OrangeDW said:
Cavs are dumb and lazy. Unfortunately Dion has a role in that. Talented, but he has a lot to learn on both ends of the court.
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Pretty much. Flawed team. Still no SF scoring. These last few NBA drafts have actually been pretty bad in general.
 
SoBeCuse said:
I still want to see Dion as a PG on another team. Chris Grant is getting serious heat in town for the picks of Thompson/Waiters/Bennett. Bennett is so bad.
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He's also on a team with tons of big men in front of him. How often does a number one pick not start? My guess is rarely.

He has an NBA frame. He's getting sporadic minutes. I like the potential.
 
GoHamSU said:
He's also on a team with tons of big men in front of him. How often does a number one pick not start? My guess is rarely.

He has an NBA frame. He's getting sporadic minutes. I like the potential.
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Def an NBA frame. Ah, Bennett just checked in and fires up an airball 3. Great.
 
It would be nice to see a Syracuse player find a good fit on an NBA team, grow and prosper. Hopefully MCW can be "that guy" for the sixers. Really an unfortunate turn of events with the Cavs and Dion but the truth of the matter is that Dion needs to bear some of the responsibility, albeit not all, for what has developed on that team.
 
Dion is really struggling with shot/shot selection. I can see him being a dynamo 6th man off the bench for now until he refines his game.
 
SoBeCuse said:
I still want to see Dion as a PG on another team. Chris Grant is getting serious heat in town for the picks of Thompson/Waiters/Bennett. Bennett is so bad.
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Thompson has taken a solid leap forwards this year. I was very skeptical of the pick at the time, but in retrospect, the only guy that you could really argue that they should have taken at that point was Jonas Valanciunas, and Thompson has been the better of the two so far this year IMO.

I think he reached on Dion. I still think Dion will thrive best as a 6th man in the NBA. And I still think Cleveland should have taken McLemore to be Kyrie's backcourt mate and then bring Waiters off the bench to spell either one of them. Oladipo would have been a good match as well.
 
Melancer46 said:
Thompson has taken a solid leap forwards this year. I was very skeptical of the pick at the time, but in retrospect, the only guy that you could really argue that they should have taken at that point was Jonas Valanciunas, and Thompson has been the better of the two so far this year IMO.

I think he reached on Dion. I still think Dion will thrive best as a 6th man in the NBA. And I still think Cleveland should have taken McLemore to be Kyrie's backcourt mate and then bring Waiters off the bench to spell either one of them. Oladipo would have been a good match as well.
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I agree. Just saying what the local media and fans are feeling. I also agree about Thompson. He's an interesting guy. Total nerd and clown. He now shoots all jumpers and foul shots right handed. He always had that smooth lefty delivery a la DC but over the summer he wanted to develop his right hand more. Well, he developed it so much to the point where he prefers to do everything right now and it looks good and it's effective. No more left! Has anybody heard of this?

These past few drafts have not been good. You're right about the Valancuinas scenario. Even Kyrie's draft, only Klay Thompson is the only one doing much I think. McLemore has been disappointing so far. Beal has taken a huge step forward though. I don't like Dion's body language on the court these days. Last night he looked heavy again. Not much lift. Change of scenery with a different role could be good.
 
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Flacusian said:
It would be nice to see a Syracuse player find a good fit on an NBA team, grow and prosper. Hopefully MCW can be "that guy" for the sixers. Really an unfortunate turn of events with the Cavs and Dion but the truth of the matter is that Dion needs to bear some of the responsibility, albeit not all, for what has developed on that team.
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that's almost the downside of having guys taken so high. most of the organizations picking that high are dysfunctional. then they get into the spiral of the team still stinking and the regime changing before they actually develop as players.

it's making me think through how football teams with rosters 5X as big can rebuild in a year or two...and basketball teams seem to sputter for decades at a time. It should be easier to fix basketball, no?
 
SoBeCuse said:
I agree. Just saying what the local media and fans are feeling. I also agree about Thompson. He's an interesting guy. Total nerd and clown. He now shoots all jumpers and foul shots right handed. He always had that smooth lefty delivery a la DC but over the summer he wanted to develop his right hand more. Well, he developed it so much to the point where he prefers to do everything right now and it looks good and it's effective. No more left! Has anybody heard of this?

These past few drafts have not been good. You're right about the Valancuinas scenario. Even Kyrie's draft, only Klay Thompson is the only one doing much I think. McLemore has been disappointing so far. Beal has taken a huge step forward though. I don't like Dion's body language on the court these days. Last night he looked heavy again. Not much lift. Change of scenery with a different role could be good.
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A lot of it has to do with draftying players so young based on potential. Most of those players you mention were "potential" picks including Dion. Remember Felipe Lopez from St Johns? He'd been a top 5 pick after his freshman year (maybe #1 out of high school). He stayed 4 years and ended up a late 1st round pick and averaged 5.8 ppg in a 4 year NBA career. The NBA is drafting athletes instead of basketball players.
 
Rocco said:
Dion should get traded this year.
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Knicks trade shumpert and his D for dion and his O . Both looking like they need a new team and helps both sides weak points especially since kyrie makes steve nash look like a 1st team all defensive team member
 
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