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Message: [QUOTE="tep624, post: 4155278, member: 430"] The kid is supposed to be some smoking gun - had the author done 5-10 minutes of research he would have been able to see that our WR recruiting both timeline wise and based on kids we were still waiting warranted passing on this kid. I also like the graphic where they home in on landing top 5 NJ prospects as a sign of success in the state - yeah I agree that would be fantastic but they do realize we haven't landed a top 5 NJ prospect in probably 20 years right? This is our recruiting of the Rivals top 25/30/40 in NJ going back to 2003. Rivals expanded the state rankings at different points over that period of time. Pretty Barren to begin with and the guys we did land before Dino all had their issues. Baskin never enrolled, Bedle lasted a year and was booted/transferred to Delaware St, Mele had his own issues and transferred to UMASS, Mungwa only came to Syracuse because he didn't qualify academically at Stanford and then quit the program. The best year we had recruiting NJ prior to Dino was Shafer's staff in 2015, all 3 of those players could have been 4 year contributors and Strickland was. Pickard was plagued by injuries and Ellison although promising ended up transferring to Duquesne. 2003 - NONE 2004 - 1 (JJ Bedle - #10) 2005 - NONE 2006 - 1 (Andray Baskin #6) 2007 - 1 (Mike Mele #27) 2008 - NONE 2009 - NONE 2010 - NONE 2011 - 1 (Shutang Mungwa #30) 2012 - NONE 2013 - NONE 2014 - NONE 2015 - 3 (Dontae Strickland #13, Daivon Ellison #26, Jake Pickard #33) 2016 - NONE (Dino's first year, 6 week recruiting cycle) 2017 - 1 (Tommy DeVito #11 - being a UA AA, Elite 11, Tommy should have been rated higher IMO) 2018 - 1 (Taj Harris #26) 2019 - 1 (Joe Rondi #23) 2020 - 1 (Leon Lowery #29) 2021 - 1 (Duce Chestnut #7) 2022 - 3 (LeQuint Allen #9, Denis Jaquez #12, Alijah Clark #4 (2021)) I would argue based on the samples that Dino's staff has done a hell of a lot better job recruiting NJ than the 15 years prior of 4 different staffs, one of which was P/D which had a huge presence in NJ and in their waning years mined the state for basically nothing. Dino's actually landed multiple top 15 recruits out of that state that have gone on to be significant contributors in the program. And his best year so far is 2022, where he landed 2 top 15 recruits with one being the Gatorade player of the year, Clark who was #4 last year as a transfer, and would have had 3 top 15 recruits had they hung onto Price. And this is the difference between doing a thorough analysis and latching on to one data point as if it proves a thesis. Can we do better in NJ? Absolutely, but you have to go back over 20 years to find a top 5 recruit in NJ that this program has landed (Morant). So how is that the measure of success when you're basically starting from nothing? The irony here is we're trending up, not down, based on 2022's results. [/QUOTE]

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