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[QUOTE="OrangeFoo, post: 1152936, member: 210"]
The question isn't really if we want to start over it's when do we want to start over.

HCSS does not have a shot in hell of turning this thing around. He just seems clueless about how to improve this team.  He got lucky last year that he played so many bad teams that were broken in a number of ways that we were able to luck our way to enough wins to get to a bowl.  Minnesota and BC were probably our two best wins last year but whatever momentum he generated is now lost.  This year we have lost three straight games where the game was pretty much over after the first half and next week that will be extended to four.  The MD team who everyone is saying had so much more talent than us got run over by OSU... they are not that good of a team.  Additionally we should have lost to Villanova.

The baffling part is that we only lost a few key players on the offensive side of the ball... from what I can see Hunt, GM3, Estime, D Davis seem to have all gotten a lost worse since last year and the oline is just terrible at run blocking. The secondary looks generally clueless as last year.

Shafer talks a good game but has yet to back it up on the field against any good teams.  We are going to have to start over at some point... I for one would prefer to get it over with now rather than lost two more years.
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