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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 389289, member: 19"] But you'd have to offset some of it with the defensive TD return against Pitt, the long PR we just had against UConn. Some of the turnovers we've forced. We've given up 3 long returns (2 against NW, 1 against USC) that I can recall, and then the FG block TD. So the question would them be how many of our turnovers were on our side of the 50, vs the other side? Seems like if you put all of that data together, you're not going to end up too materially different. We'd still be Top 30 Net, I would think versus some of the rankings recently where I assume we've easily been higher than, say 60. The bigger wet blanket point may be that we've had garbage time drives where the defense let us take 10 yards chunks at a time versus a deep ball. [/QUOTE]