Do you think Shafer has taken over the defense?

[texascpa]

After the GTech debacle our defense has really stepped it up. Now, that may be a matter of the last two teams offenses that we've played, but I see similarities in our blitzing schemes recently to last year. Can't say that I saw the same in the first 7 games. I'm wondering if Shafer is having a much greater say in how the defense is managed during the game.

 

[Libero2]

It wouldn't surprise me. The defense is Schafer's specialty, it clearly wasn't living up to expectations early in the year. I doubt we hear about it if he is though.

 

[rrlbees]

I'm sure he has made some impact. But we have to temper the euphoria with the fact that Wake has one of the worst 5-6 offenses in D1 and Maryland is just as bad now with all their injuries.


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[texascpa]

I'm sure he has made some impact. But we have to temper the euphoria with the fact that Wake has one of the worst 5-6 offenses in D1 and Maryland is just as bad now with all their injuries.

Right, that's why I included the disclaimer about the last two teams we played. However, the blitzing schemes just feel different. They feel more Shaferesque.

 

[SWC75]

They look familiar. These wins remind me of the road wins the 2010 team got. I think using guys like Morgan and Whigham more has helped, too. Receivers aren't running free any more.

 

[rosconey]

no doubt in my mind he took over the defense- i would love to see how involved he is at practice now compared to the weeks leading up to uncle clem amd georgia turds

 

[cuseinchina]

Shafer running defense and qb coach babysitting the play calling on offense. The result - a significant uptick in play. Good to see that Shafer is not above bruising the ego of his friends to make this happen. It's easy to say well this is his shot and all the money on the line so of course he will do whatever it takes-- but shafer strikes me as a genuine and loyal guy so I am sure stuff like this is tough for him. I have seen many a business fail where millions were at stake for fear of making a friend feel bad.

 

[Rocco]

I think he is way more involved than he was. And that's a good thing.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I'm sure he has made some impact. But we have to temper the euphoria with the fact that Wake has one of the worst 5-6 offenses in D1 and Maryland is just as bad now with all their injuries.

This. Plus, it's no coincidence that our three ACC wins have come against teams with putrid offensive lines.

 

[007]

I think he is way more involved than he was. And that's a good thing.

Some of the schemes on D are definitely different, but I would bet that SS has had significant input for game planning on that side of the ball since day 1. I also think that Bullough is still doing the in-game play calling.

To my eye, I have seen a lot more man press coverages by the corners, 3-4 hybrids in non okie packages, D lineman dropping into underneath zone coverages, and a much better job of disguising coverages and blitzes pre-snap. There seems to be a lot more scheming of "how and who" to attack on the blitzes, and less of pre-determined zone or run gap blitzing. I do not recall seeing a lot of that when SS was DC.

These types of adjustments have given me more hope for this staff's ability to handle the Xs & Os

 

[Rocco]

Some of the schemes on D are definitely different, but I would bet that SS has had significant input for game planning on that side of the ball since day 1. I also think that Bullough is still doing the in-game play calling.

I think Shaf is more heavily involved with the game-planning now than he was at the start of the year. At the end of the day, he does need to sign off on everything. Maybe he was signing off on something that he thought might work in the first few games. Since then, he has gotten deeper into the game planning IMO for obvious reasons.

The other thing with Bullough is that he is a high IQ defensive guy, which leads to some of his complicated coverages going over the heads of his D, especially the secondary. There have been multiple blown coverages, which a part of me equates to the players being too confused and that the plays needed to be "dumbed" down a bit, for lack of a better word. This is where Shaf has chipped in IMO.

 

[007]

I think Shaf is more heavily involved with the game-planning now than he was at the start of the year. At the end of the day, he does need to sign off on everything. Maybe he was signing off on something that he thought might work in the first few games. Since then, he has gotten deeper into the game planning IMO for obvious reasons.

The other thing with Bullough is that he is a high IQ defensive guy, which leads to some of his complicated coverages going over the heads of his D, especially the secondary. There have been multiple blown coverages, which a part of me equates to the players being too confused and that the plays needed to be "dumbed" down a bit, for lack of a better word. This is where Shaf has chipped in IMO.

If anything, the schemes look more "complicated" than they were prior to GT game, at least to me. We can reasonably debate whether this is true, and whether or not we THINK that SS is more involved. But none of us are in those meeting rooms.

I would guess that, in addition to the possible change in schemes I noted above, that there is a combination of factors for what we think we have noticed. I do see more man press coverage from the corners and I suspect this is due more to the players being used - this was not a strength of Lynn and Anderson, IMO.

I also think that we will again see a return to WRs running wide open vs. FSU. The lack of high end speed in the secondary, especially for the safeties, will be exposed. Then again, FSU has "exposed" everyone they have played.

 

[PhatOrange]

This. Plus, it's no coincidence that our three ACC wins have come against teams with putrid offensive lines.

true but giving up only 3 points in two games is something else. Wake and Maryland have scored points all year.

Wake isn't good but got 7 against Clemson, 3 against FSU and we shut them out. Wake otherwise averages 28ppg.

Maryland was blanked by FSU and then only got 3 against Syracuse. Otherwise they are averaging nearly 32 points per game.

Their offense are not THAT bad. They are every bit as good as our offense which is averaging 24.5 ppg on the season.

The Syracuse defense nearly pitching back to back shutouts against BCS teams is pretty good by anybody's measure.

 

[Millhouse]

true but giving up only 3 points in two games is something else. Wake and Maryland have scored points all year.

Wake isn't good but got 7 against Clemson, 3 against FSU and we shut them out. Wake otherwise averages 28ppg.

Maryland was blanked by FSU and then only got 3 against Syracuse. Otherwise they are averaging nearly 32 points per game.

Their offense are not THAT bad. They are every bit as good as our offense which is averaging 24.5 ppg on the season.

The Syracuse defense nearly pitching back to back shutouts against BCS teams is pretty good by anybody's measure.

213 and 292 yards the last two weeks, i don't care who that's against, that's good

 

[rrlbees]

213 and 292 yards the last two weeks, i don't care who that's against, that's good

It's good, but WF is like 112 of 125. Their offense is horrible. Even we are in the 80's I think. Maryland looks better on paper but they have been decimated by injuries and aren't the same team.


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[anglerman]

It's good, but WF is like 112 of 125. Their offense is horrible. Even we are in the 80's I think. Maryland looks better on paper but they have been decimated by injuries and aren't the same team.

Look Bees that may be true but the defense couldn't have played any better than giving up 3 points in 8 quarters against ACC teams. Don't put down the results because you think the teams aren t good. SU completely dominated them. That's what you would expect of a good defense

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

BC.and Pitt will be good chances to see where the defense is really at. Both teams seem to have solid offenses.

 

[rrlbees]

Not what my point was at all reading down from my original post in this thread. But nice job of twisting it. I can't help you with your reading problem.

I think we should have held them to negative points.


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[Crusty]

A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN is a win

 

[OttoinGrotto]

A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN is a win

That's mesmerizing.

 

[SUFan44]

I'm sure he has made some impact. But we have to temper the euphoria with the fact that Wake has one of the worst 5-6 offenses in D1 and Maryland is just as bad now with all their injuries.

Maryland scored 27 points two weeks prior against Clemson - with a backup QB, no less, and without those two WRs you are most likely speaking of with the "injuries". Looking at the box score, everyone who made an impact skill-position wise against Clemson played against Syracuse.

Our D allowed 3.8 yards per play against MD, compared to Clemson's allowing 5.2 ypp. That's a significant difference, and very impressive.

Wake's WR getting hurt was huge, no doubt about it, but a shutout, 198 yards total offense and 2.7 ypp is pretty damn impressive no matter who you play against.

The defense has allowed 3 points in the last 8 quarters against ACC opponents. That's tremendous against I-AA schools. And these offenses are better than that.

 

[SUFan44]

It's good, but WF is like 112 of 125. Their offense is horrible. Even we are in the 80's I think. Maryland looks better on paper but they have been decimated by injuries and aren't the same team.

We have been unreal defensively the last two games. Let's celebrate rather than diminish accomplishments?

 

[rrlbees]

We have been unreal defensively the last two games. Let's celebrate rather than diminish accomplishments?

Yes, because saying we need to temper the euphoria is such a downer.


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[SUFan44]

Yes, because saying we need to temper the euphoria is such a downer.

You don't think you're diminishing their performances by stating how bad the other teams are/were?

 

[rrlbees]

You don't think you're diminishing their performances by stating how bad the other teams are/were?

No because the question was about Shafer's impact on the defense. Hopefully they do as well against good offenses.


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