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Message: [QUOTE="sutomcat, post: 5299273, member: 27"] I think the key thing that held NC State together during the Doreen era despite Doeren being a crappy HC was their DC Tony Gibson. He was an excellent DC and he was there for a long time. Losing him (he was recently hired as the new HC at Marshall) was a devastating blow to the Wolf Pack. Doeren is in real trouble now. He is no longer winning. He made a huge misstep hiring Anae instead of the brains of the operation (Beck). If he doesn’t kill it with his hire of the new DC, he is done. The one thing he has going for him is that most of the ACC football programs are in disarray. As we have seen this bowl season. [/QUOTE]