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Message: [QUOTE="Oráiste, post: 2233901, member: 5974"] I'm confused . . . on the one hand, Hopkins has been running the program for several years and losing him is going to kill us while on the other hand, we've lost 42 games and not gone to the tournament 2x in the the last 3 seasons, and that is a sign Boeheim has lost it I don't think both can be true they use lots of things as negative recruiting against us . . . and against everyone else. it is the staff's job to easily counter that negative recruiting by pointing out we've had a 1st rounder six years in a row so the supposed stigma doesn't really exist. [/QUOTE]