Does the big fella got it in him?

[pearl31]

That is, does Dajuan Coleman have the work ethic and desire to become an impact player by next season? Does he have the capacity and wherewithal to anchor the zone to JB's liking?
I think it's absolutely imperative for DC2 to emerge as a legit contributor in 2013-14.

Thoughts?

 

[cuseattle]

Hope so! Fab did it, and surprised the hell out of a bunch of us.
I wish every kid had Rick Jackson's work ethic.

 

[swish7]

That is, does Dajuan Coleman have the work ethic and desire to become an impact player by next season? Does he have the capacity and wherewithal to anchor the zone to JB's liking?
I think it's absolutely imperative for DC2 to emerge as a legit contributor in 2013-14.

Thoughts?

If he can't beat out Mr Pouty, Christmas, then, well... ...We've got issues.

We recruit a lot of athlete bigs, and project bigs. We need to make it a priority to recruit a fundamentally sound big, every 3 years. A lot of schools have bigs that understand the game, can move, post, shoot, and pass. They may not have the "athleticism" JB covets, but they can do everthing else.

We really suffered this year from not having a big we could dump the ball to, and expect good things. We needed someone who could take the pressure off the offense, by being able to receive a pass, post up, and shoot 50% from the blocks.

I don't care how fast they run, or how high they jump. Get someone with the fundamentals, and a chip on their shoulder.

 

[AluminNV]

Yes. Game was a little too fast for him this year. Rak and Baye were better options. BUT...not by much. If DC got the chance to improve the way McGary did with minutes (and McGary looked completely out of his element in their early non conference games) I think DC is probably as good as Rak and Baye in the tournament.

I wouldn't give up on Coleman we'll have a monster his Junior year (and we prob won't get him back as a senior.)

 

[albanycuse]

I dont think its work ethic at all. He lost close to 50 pounds. I think its more of that he needs to get accustomed to the college level and learn his positioning in the zone defense.


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[Jasoncuse]

DC is going to need to develop some sort of face up game on the offensive end, with a baby hook or short J. He can't just go through defenders like he tried to do this year. ACC refs certainly won't allow that.

 

[Col. Bleep]

I dont think its work ethic at all. He lost close to 50 pounds. I think its more of that he needs to get accustomed to the college level and learn his positioning in the zone defense.


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I agree.

But I never had high hopes for him this season.
In the high school video I saw of him, he appeared pretty much the way he played for us: slow and not all that sound fundamentally.
But because of his size and basic coordination he was a top recruit.
His AAU team was ok...but his high school team played a 3rd rate schedule.

The point: he was not nearly as developed as other similar recruits.

A lot of guys take a big step between their freshman get-accustomed year and their soph seasons.
Let's hope he does, too.
If so, we'll have quite a returning frontcourt with DC, Fair, Grant, Keita & Christmas.
The question next year will be backcourt.
Completely the opposite of this year's situation.

 

[kcsu]

I expect DC to become our best big in a very long time. I believe he has a chance to put up Doubles in many games. I hope that he gets to play a ton of ball this summer against outside competition. DC and Cooney would both benefit from some Europe competition

 

[jordoo]

I think he is key next year. I expect good things.

 

[zhanjuzi]

Yes. Game was a little too fast for him this year. Rak and Baye were better options. BUT...not by much. If DC got the chance to improve the way McGary did with minutes (and McGary looked completely out of his element in their early non conference games) I think DC is probably as good as Rak and Baye in the tournament.

I wouldn't give up on Coleman we'll have a monster his Junior year (and we prob won't get him back as a senior.)

The comparison between McGary and DC is absurd. DC is a fundamentally flawed player that was able to use his size in HS to dominate .. that doesn't hack it in college ball. He will have to do some serious reevaluation of his skills and work extremely hard during the off season to correct theses flaws before seeing any serious PT next year. Is this possible? Yes. Probable? I don't bet.

 

[OrangeJEM]

The comparison between McGary and DC is absurd. DC is a fundamentally flawed player that was able to use his size in HS to dominate .. that doesn't hack it in college ball. He will have to do some serious reevaluation of his skills and work extremely hard during the off season to correct theses flaws before seeing any serious PT next year. Is this possible? Yes. Probable? I don't bet.

That's not quite true. Seth Davis tweeted earlier in the Year that NBA scouts were impressed with DC more then anyone when they visited practices. DC has REALLY good footwork for a big man. He has post moves. He needs to clean up his game a little bit, the kind of stuff that wouold have happened if he played 20 mins a game instead of 2.

 

[cuseincincy]

That's not quite true. Seth Davis tweeted earlier in the Year that NBA scouts were impressed with DC more then anyone when they visited practices. DC has REALLY good footwork for a big man. He has post moves. He needs to clean up his game a little bit, the kind of stuff that wouold have happened if he played 20 mins a game instead of 2.

Agreed. And I don't the comparison was of their skills as a player. It was a comparison of how their seasons were progressing. The fact that McGary could hardly find the floor until the last half of the season is what is similar to DC. About the time McGary was startign to see mroe time is about when DC went out with his injury. My personal opionion is that DC wasn't going to make the leap McGary did any way but his injury eliminated any possibility.

 

[SoBristol]

Comparison to McGary makes little sense -- completely different games and skill sets.

DC has a lot to learn about positioning on defense; he won't be a shot blocker unless he can add some spring; and he will have some difficulties on offense unless he can add a baby hook, get a higher release point on his shots, and work on quicker moves. Of course, he can and will improve in all these areas over the next 6 months, but I don't seeing him moving ahead of Keita or Rak. Keep in mind that Keita and Rak will also improve.

 

[SoBeCuse]

McGary made a HUGE transformation. Earlier in the year he was a total spaz. Moving too fast, frantic, committing charges, etc. The game really slowed down for him remarkably after January.

Coleman can hopefully make a leap in this department. As a skill level, McGary is just way more gifted, imo. Some of those passes he was whipping to people from the high post were incredible. He seemed to almost always make the right play. One thing I liked about Coleman is that he seemed to have a 'motor' for pursuing the ball on the boards.

 

[OttoMets]

That is, does Dajuan Coleman have the work ethic and desire to become an impact player by next season? Does he have the capacity and wherewithal to anchor the zone to JB's liking?
I think it's absolutely imperative for DC2 to emerge as a legit contributor in 2013-14.

Thoughts?

Absolutely. He worked very hard out there, but he was too mechanical and was clearly thinking his way through defense. Instincts will come with game reps and he'll round into a capable defender. I wouldn't expect the wow factor of Fab (or Christmas, or even Keita), since Coleman's never going to be a tall guy or a leaper. But he'll be OK.

Will he quit dribbling and bringing the ball down on the block? That's another question altogether. Let's hope the coaching staff sends him off to get some high-level instruction, because whatever they did for the past five months didn't seem to work.

 

[OttoMets]

I dont think its work ethic at all. He lost close to 50 pounds. I think its more of that he needs to get accustomed to the college level and learn his positioning in the zone defense.


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This. He needs to lose more weight, but he's worked very hard. Game minutes are what he needs.

 

[br801]

That is, does Dajuan Coleman have the work ethic and desire to become an impact player by next season? Does he have the capacity and wherewithal to anchor the zone to JB's liking?
I think it's absolutely imperative for DC2 to emerge as a legit contributor in 2013-14.

Thoughts?

Yes and yes. I have no doubt.

 

[Knicks411]

Will he quit dribbling and bringing the ball down on the block? That's another question altogether. Let's hope the coaching staff sends him off to get some high-level instruction, because whatever they did for the past five months didn't seem to work.

Yeah, he hasn't really played much in the last few months so I kinda forgot about it, but he does this all the time.

I think DC has talent, and I think the things he needs to improve on can be improved with reps. So I can see him improving a lot. (As opposed to a guy like Rak; he can improve through reps as well, but there also seems to be a question if he has the fire to be really good. That doesn't seem to be an issue with DC)

 

[SWC75]

McGary made a HUGE transformation. Earlier in the year he was a total spaz. Moving too fast, frantic, committing charges, etc. The game really slowed down for him remarkably after January.

Coleman can hopefully make a leap in this department. As a skill level, McGary is just way more gifted, imo. Some of those passes he was whipping to people from the high post were incredible. He seemed to almost always make the right play. One thing I liked about Coleman is that he seemed to have a 'motor' for pursuing the ball on the boards.

Actually, Coleman has the rep of being a pretty good passer. Not many chances to show it this year. In the All-star games last year he threw some wicked outlets.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Actually, Coleman has the rep of being a pretty good passer. Not many chances to show it this year. In the All-star games last year he threw some wicked outlets.

Interesting. I always thought that one of the reasons AO and Rick were so good together is that they both seemed adept at passing from the free throw line to the other down low. I'd love to see Rak and DC be able to do the same kind of thing. Rak has to get quicker if he is ever going to play the 4 though.

 

[jordoo]

Interesting. I always thought that one of the reasons AO and Rick were so good together is that they both seemed adept at passing from the free throw line to the other down low. I'd love to see Rak and DC be able to do the same kind of thing. Rak has to get quicker if he is ever going to play the 4 though.

AO and Rick were under rated as passers IMO. If DC2 can pass well from the high post that will open up a lot of things that we didn't really have this year.

 

[SWC75]

Interesting. I always thought that one of the reasons AO and Rick were so good together is that they both seemed adept at passing from the free throw line to the other down low. I'd love to see Rak and DC be able to do the same kind of thing. Rak has to get quicker if he is ever going to play the 4 though.

Arinze and Rick could also pass back and fourth across the lane. That's what we missed vs. Butler with AO gone. Two inside scoring targets who could play a two-man game with each other.

I don't see Rak at the '4' with Grant and Roberson available.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

AO and Rick were under rated as passers IMO. If DC2 can pass well from the high post that will open up a lot of things that we didn't really have this year.

Exactly. Even if JB doesn't play them together the whole game, but starts it that way, with early success, the game changes completely.

 

[swish7]

Exactly. Even if JB doesn't play them together the whole game, but starts it that way, with early success, the game changes completely.

These are exciting thoughts. If Rak and DC can be on the floor at the same time, and establish a high low game, and Pace stays, and Grant makes a leap, next year gets interesting,

 

[CuseFaninVT]

These are exciting thoughts. If Rak and DC can be on the floor at the same time, and establish a high low game, and Pace stays, and Grant makes a leap, next year gets interesting,

I'm assuming you mean CJ Fair up there, but either way, I found this slip extremely amusing.