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Message: [QUOTE="Waltdods, post: 2383558, member: 2932"] Obviously that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that he often uses hyperbole (such as that hakim weighed 160 lbs when he arrived) and that his statements are often made for reasons other than providing a fully considered analysis of the situation (such as to avoid a question or talk up his guys, or sometimes to talk down his guys). And Hak weighed 215 at his pre-draft measurements so, at a bare minimum, we have to concede either that jb was exaggerating how thin he was when he arrived or that he bulked up an awful lot after getting to the orange. [URL='http://canadahoops.blogspot.com/2007/05/nba-predraft-camp-measurements-2002.html?m=1']canada hoops: NBA Predraft Camp Measurements 2000-2006[/URL] Not everything he says is gospel, nor even meant to be. [/QUOTE]