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Message: [QUOTE="Waltdods, post: 2383618, member: 2932"] This is his measurement from 2005, when he graduated and went into the draft. It's not my guess. It's from the pre-draft camp in June 2005, about two months after Warrick played his last game for SU. Note that you have also committed yourself to the position that Warrick weighed 180 when he left. As I previously noted, the media guide had him at 219. So every non-JB-statement-at-a-podium-when-making-a-point-about-someone-else-15-years-later piece of evidence either of us has been able to find goes against your certainty. In miniature this is a stupid debate, but I can't quite get past the "We know that because JB told us that in his presser." That's not how facts work. Boeheim says things that are incorrect all the time, just like we all do. (For example, almost every SWC recap of his radio show notes that he mis-stated a score or a year or something.) [/QUOTE]