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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 5325353, member: 40"] Agree 1000%. That was the clear line of demarcation. And agree about that '16 team -- if JB doesn't "sit" a few games, we probably aren't on the bubble, and that team plays to it's proper seeding. Every year beyond that has been part of the tangible decline, with some performing slightly better than others due to personnel, and several not coming class to qualifying for postseason play. The data also supports that split -- the first 38 years, JB won nearly 75% of his games. The last 8, he won closer to 55%, and was .500 in ACC league play. From that standpoint, the 2016 F4 may as well have been a lifetime ago. [/QUOTE]