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Message: [QUOTE="chugg21, post: 1936653, member: 3360"] I for one don't really forsee any type of prolonged success in our future, that's what a solid decade or 2 of being a doormat does to people. I'm hoping to be competing for 8-9 wins during uptick swings with a decent bowl destination. Being realistic is acknowledging that we historically pay a salary that is in the bottom 10% of Power-5 programs in an extremely high tax state, have a recruiting footprint that may also be in that bottom 10% and also are located in a pretty undesirable location all things considered. Mix that with being stuck in a division with 2 powerhouses that aren't likely to go anywhere for the forseeable future and that's just the way things are. [/QUOTE]