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Message: [QUOTE="jdubs30, post: 1764190, member: 1620"] When Greene and Flynn,, the self proclaimed "dynasty" came onto campus in 2008, a lot changed. From 2000 to 2007, Syracuse had a total of 6 total players drafted; of those 6, only Carmelo left early, the other 5 (Hart, Etan, Damone, Warrick and Nichols) were seniors. Melo and Etan were lottery picks, Warrick was picked round 1, and the other 3 were taken in the 2nd round. So that's not bad, over the stretch of 7 drafts, we had 6 players taken, 2 of them being lottery picks. Most schools would be very happy with that, you're putting an average of 1 kid per year in the NBA. Not only that, but 5 of the 6 were seniors, so we saw them develop, improve and get better before they left. Of course the only non-senior had a pretty good single year on the hill. Once Flynn and Greene showed up, the dynamic changed. It seemed like we started to get a lot more kids who were looking to be 1 and done and only saw college as a temporary destination (that is the mindset for a lot of kids around that age though). So what are the numbers? Since 2008, we've had 12 players drafted; in the prior 7 year stretch we had 6, so we doubled the amount of kids we're putting in the league. Not only that, Mali and G will be getting drafted this year, so that's 14 draft picks in the last 8 drafts. You'd have to go all the back to 1991 (from 2007) to get 14 players drafted for Syracuse. So what it took us 26 years to do pre Flynn/Greene, we've done in 8 years since. Also due to the nature of the game how it is now, kids leave early. Since 2008, of our 14 players drafted, 10 of them will have left early, and 9 of those 10 will have left as underclassmen (Wes). We've lost 4 players after their freshman years, and 5 players after their sophomore years. Of those 14, only 3 were seniors, and none were taken round 1 (Rautins, KrisJo, Rak, G). Infact, of the 10 players who left early, 8 have drafted in the 1st round (Grant was round 2, TBD on Mali) with 4 lottery picks. Man, doesn't it seem like we've been screwed with early entrants? In an 8 year stretch we've lost 4 freshman, and 5 sophomores - however, if Mali gets taken round 1, 8 out of those 9 kids who left early would have been 1st round picks. So how do we stack up to other schools (since 2008, I will exclude the 2016 draft) ? Syracuse: 12 players drafted since 2008, 4 lottery picks, 9 left early - 3 freshman, 5 sophomores, 1 junior Kansas: 18 players drafted since 2008, 10 lottery picks, 15 left early - 6 freshman, 6 juniors, 1 sophomore MSU: 5 players drafted since 2008, 1 lottery pick, 1 player left early - 1 sophomore UNC: 12 players drafted since 2008, 5 lottery picks, 9 players left early - 5 juniors, 4 sophomores Duke: 14 players drafted since 2008, 6 lottery picks, 9 players left early - 6 freshman, 2 sophomores, 1 junior UK: 27 players drafted since 2008. 'nuff said Arizona: 10 players drafted since 2008, 5 lottery picks, 9 players left early - 4 freshman, 2 sophomores, 3 juniors UConn: 10 players drafted since 2008, 4 lottery picks, 6 left early - 2 sophomores, 3 juinors, 1 freshman In retrospect, we are right there amongst this group as far as kids leaving early (except MSU). Our numbers are deadlocked with UNC with the exception of we've lost 8 underclassmen and they've lost 4. There are some schools on this list that will have 1 or no players drafted this year (MSU, Duke, UConn, Zona). So we will once again add to our total. I'm sure there are a few other schools I could have added to the overall list, but this just gives a snapshot of where we stand on the landscape as far as losing players early. [/QUOTE]

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