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Message: [QUOTE="SBU72, post: 4554551, member: 741"] For a couple of weeks now I have been thinking about doing how all the old Big East teams are doing in the ACC compared to say the 5 years before that form of the BE brook up. None of them (SU, Pitt, ND, Louisville, BC, Miami and Virginia Tech) has consistently been in top third of the ACC. Top half has been a struggle. Some have done well/ok for a while but for over the last nine years most have struggled. To me joining the ACC has contributed as much to the struggles for not as JB has, as demonstrated by all the former BE teams. Sure there have been other factors the conference alone makes recruiting and playing very difficult. One of these days I'll try and do the research. [/QUOTE]