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Message: [QUOTE="ACCBballFan, post: 27591, member: 1278"] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]I thank [B][FONT=Georgia]AlbanyCuse[/FONT][/B] for the invite to join this Board, and thought I would make my first post an all inclusive intro on this thread.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]First, I thought [B]ACC adding Pitt and Cuse[/B] was a brilliant move and [B]totally caught the B1G by surprise. Very happy to have you two as 13-14[/B] but [U]I do not favor UCONN or [/U]Rutgers [U]any time soon for 15-16 for lots of reasons [/U](numbers below not necessarily in priority order just as references):[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]1. Do not want ACC to be the sole reason BE falls apart, though in Bball that helps ACC cause (also B1G's) with Notre Dame not remaining independent forever.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]2. [B]Holding out hope that long term[/B] and when you see the teams you will agree it is[B] not possible in short term that ACC can add one or both of Penn State and Notre Dame for 15-16[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]3. B1G would have loved to add Pitt from BE and Maryland from ACC to appease Penn State whose nearest B1G school Ohio State is much further away (5.75 hours) than in this order: Pitt (2.67), MD (3.85) , (Rutgers 4.1), Syracuse (4.48) and UVA (5.08 hours).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia] B1G adding Pitt and MD would have better positioned them to retain PSU and eventually add Notre Dame and Cuse (or Rutgers).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]4. [B]No longer any rush for ACC to get to 16[/B] since SEC only has 13, P12 and B1G now content at 12, B12 only has 9 and BE only has 7.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]5. ACC football "powers" as much as anybody can be viewed as a football power in ACC or BE [U]want football schools better than UCONN or [/U]Rutgers for 15-16[U].[/U][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]6. [B]No one can name 4 teams that ACC could realistically added in short term[/B] when super conferences were looking more imminent, [B]that do not include one if not both Syracuse[/B][B] and Pitt.[/B] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][U]Great interim solution for 13-14 but no rush to get to 15-16 if doing so forever eliminates Penn St and Notre Dame[/U].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]7. Though with FSU, Miami and UNC scandals, ACC cannot throw stones, UCONN as good as it is in both genders for Bball, has some ethics baggage, while [B]Cuse and Pitt run clean programs[/B]. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]8. NYC has a lot of distractions. [U]Cuse is as good an entry, (or not), into that NY market as [/U]Rutgers is (or is not), and much better in both sports, not to mention [B]lacrosse[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]9. IMO, the only negative is weather for baseball and softball but football and revenue drive this, not other sports, not even Bball.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]10. Syracuse[B] and Pitt are perennially top 10 in Bball which gives ACC 4 top programs every year[/B].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]I could go on but you get the drift. The CT governor now seems to agree that UCONN should not man the phones waiting for an ACC call anytime soon, unless one of the 14 leaves. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][URL]http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7024219/connecticut-governor-acc-uconn-huskies-decision-not-likely-soon[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]With respect to [B]football scheduling[/B] that I do not follow closely, seems to me the easiest thing to do if Cuse and Pitt become available sooner than 27 months and number of teams is 14 is to[U] just add[/U] Syracuse [U]to BC's conference and Pitt with the [/U]Virginia teams.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]The current ACC football divisions are not geographic. Both new adds were 8-5 last year and [U]have them play each other cross-divisionally at least that first year[/U].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]Since [B]TV drives the Bball schedule[/B], how about this? Have [U]each ACC team play the other 13 once plus 3 Home and Home[/U].[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]That would mean [B]UNC-Syracuse-Duke-Pitt all play one another twice in a two year rotation cycle[/B][U] to allow home games at least every other year with everybody.[/U][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]Do the same thing at bottom for the 4 worst teams that only their fans would ever want to watch play twice: BC-GA T- Wake -MD this year but not bottom 4 for long. Top 4 teams would still play them once, alternating home and away every other year.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]For the middle 6, give them each a primary partner and alternate which two of the other 4 they play odd years, and the other two the even years:[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]FSU and Miami home and home every year plus alternate for example VA T and NC State twice in odd years and UVA and Clemson twice in even years[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]VA Tech and UVA home and home every year plus alternate FSU and NC State twice in odd years and Miami and Clemson twice in even years[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]Clemson and NC St home and home every year and alternate Miami and UVA twice in odd years and FSU and NC State twice in even years.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]It's possible that one of these middle 6 might finish higher than one of the top 4 and also possible one of the bottom 4 may finish higher than one of the middle 6. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][B]My preference would be to not re-seed top 4 and bottom 4 until after second year[/B] when [U]everybody who played once only on road would play the same foe at home[/U] and vice versa.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]Back to expansion, Nova has a long way to go to upgrade its football program and infrastructure.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]ACC places a high emphasis on academics, second only to B1G who also requires membership in [B]Assoc of American Universities (AAU)[/B] that is nice to have but not required in ACC. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]So [B]academics in addition sometimes to geography eliminates: [/B]Memphis[B], [/B]Houston[B], ECU, USF, UCF, [/B]West VA[B], [/B]Louisville[B], TxTech, Cincy, K-State, [/B]Temple[B], [/B][B]Okie St[/B][B], and [/B]UK. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]That[U] greatly reduces[/U] the [U]list of potentials who I list below by academic rank[/U] in US News & World reports , with TV share in parenthesis, even including teams not anywhere near the East Coast:[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][URL='http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/?scp=1&sq=most%20popular%20college%20football%20teams%20in%20new%20york&st=cse']http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-geography-of-college-football-fans-and-realignment-chaos/?scp=1&sq=most popular college football teams in new york&st=cse[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]12 - Northwestern (AAU as is all of B1G) would not leave B1G, distance and a lot of other non-starters[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]17 - Vandy (380K and AAU) - would not leave SEC $$ on table, won't bother to list Florida further down [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]17 - Rice (AAU), like NW, too far away for what it brings[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]19 - [B]Notre Dame[/B] ([B]2.262 million TV[/B] Share) highly desirable to both B1G and ACC, not AAU but rules made to be broken, [U]wants independence[/U][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]30 - Richmond but already two ACC teams in VA[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3][B]45- Penn State[/B][B] (AAU and 2.642[/B] M) content in B1G for moment but having Pitt helps ACC cause, [U]views itself as eastern[/U] vs. east fringe of central[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]45 - Texas (AAU and 2.25 M) issues with distance and Texas Longhorn Network, and now potential 6 year B12 rights grants[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]55 - Maryland (AAU) adding Pitt and Cuse helps retain MD in ACC[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=3]58 - [B]Pitt (831K and AAU[/B]) helps case with Penn St long term, good in both sports and geographically - [B][FONT=Georgia]no one can name 4 realistic ACC candidates better[/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]58 - UCONN (619K, not AAU, ethics issues) - only need 2 short term and Pitt/Cuse better fits overall, BC still bitter from last time[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]62 - Syracuse[B] (769K, former AAU) -[FONT=Georgia]no one can name 4 realistic ACC candidates better[/FONT],[/B] [U]new market in upstate NY and NYC, lacrosse[/U][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]68 - Rutgers (938K, AAU) - Syracuse taps into NYC market to extent that is possible as much as Rutgers can, Rutgers bad in both sports[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]75 - Baylor (210K small market, not AAU) - distance but good in both sports and has renowned medical center[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]75 - Tulsa dwarfed by Oklahoma and Okie St and too far[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]82 - Vermont adds nothing that Syracuse did not already add, way worse in both sports[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia][B]90 - Missouri[/B][B] (1.085 M and AAU[/B]) - good in both sports but competition from B1G and SEC who are bigger and closer, [U]great rivalry with KU[/U][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]97 - Iowa St (535K and AAU) - leave this one for B1G or B12 since not great in either sport to be kind[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]97 - TCU (371K small market) - already headed to BE, distance, competition also from B12[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]101 - low water mark for ACC with FSU and NC St tied with several[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]101 - [B]Kansas (768K and AAU)[/B] - [U]may be tied to K-St who[/U] does not make cut, killed by GA Tech 66-24,[U] great Bball only add if not so far [/U][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]101 - Tennessee would not leave SEC, did not bother to list Oklahoma and Nebraska also 101[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=#141414][FONT=Georgia]111 - South Carolina also would not leave SEC [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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