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Message: [QUOTE="wgdsr, post: 4220489, member: 7179"] honestly, i think you're saying some of the same things i am. rather than maintaining identity and forcing teams to match them, they did the opposite. no one would be able to convince me cuse couldn't get the same type of players say, a brown had, especially as they were bringing in 50-70% more players every year and carrying redshirts to boot. and the williams years points to the faceoff being a red herring. i'm most taking as "proof" at how the d was tasked. ctos focus, 3 guys running transition not 2 to the box. and even the best players there weren't takeaway artists. usually. obviously, the dearth runouts were noteworthy but maybe that says it too because they were more isolated. anyway, not trying to make it a whole thing. just chatting. will be interesting to see what cuse is about this year on multiple fronts. their destiny in 2022 is still ahead of them. [/QUOTE]