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Message: [QUOTE="Ish88888, post: 2726586, member: 5559"] NFL qbs have all the time in the world to train specifically and still dont have the guns ED does. they arent in class as fb is their gig 24/7. His delivery is stiff and i would like some evidence of this phantom injury that was slapped on him after the WMU game. T As for baseball players as big as ED? The closest might be Stanton but his frame is more long and his muscle is less bulk, more chisel. other than that, the roid era is over and never saw a posiiion player other than saw camminetti or bagwell with guns. We know caminettis deal and bagwell didn't have to throw the ball. Never see a right fielder or pitcher with big delts and biceps. Judge is a large man, long and athletic and does it with physics. [/QUOTE]