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[QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 3165582, member: 668"]
As a Browns fan lifer who watches every game, this is more on the GM Dorsey than Kitchens.  The Browns had several excellent candidates after last season, and Dorsey went with a guy who has never been a head coach, nor an OC for that matter.  After firing Jackson last year, Kitchens called the plays for the last 8 Browns games.

Dorsey could've hired Mike McCarthy (Packers ex-coach whom he has a solid relationship with from his NFL experiences, etc.) as he was available and really wanted the job...he's still available and the rumor mill is churning.  Dorsey has also brought in players that are busting & horrendous.  And, it's not Baker, Odell, etc. or any bigger name guys, but rather players getting starter reps and simply not producing.

Anyone who may have seen the Browns/Broncos game yesterday easily witnessed on a few defensive series, missed tackles, wiffs, etc., flat out embarrassing...a joke at the NFL level.  These guys should be docked some pay it was so egregious...such gross negligence.

The Broncos got to into the Red Zone, not even once, and still scored 3 TD's.  The Browns were in the Red Zone 5 times, and only scored I TD.  Now, one can make an argument on some of those plays, but overall, and by far, the failure had to do with extremely poor execution by the PLAYERS.  As another poster alluded to, the Browns have been plague by dropped balls left and right, penalties, etc., self-inflicted wounds, beating themselves for the most part.  Last weeks game in New England, the Browns had 3 turnovers on 3 snaps, nothing to do with the Pats, 100% Browns implosion.  Browns win 20-13 last week if not for shooting themselves in the foot.  It has been the tale of their season to date.
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