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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 1515654, member: 474"] the questi0n is the ball might have been coming loose because of the contact, but the fact it went so far also means he had some control of the ball to throw it forward that far. if it goes 3-5 yds then i can see a fumble call but to go so far as to almost be a completed pass then its a pass. . worst thing is live it looks like a pass to everyone on the field except the ref who lets it play out . had he ruled it a pass, then replay changes it to a fumble its still no TD. what if the same play he throws it 30 yds down field they still going to rule it a fumble? [/QUOTE]