Dungy arm injury

[kcsu]

Its as plain as day that Eric is hurt. He was "shot putting" his throws. It looks as if the shoulder injury Bees has mentioned is significant.

 

[upperdeck]

he always throws like that to me.. rushes it and uses bad footwork too much.. a couple huge throws he left short like the INT and the dribble to johnson that really came at bad times.

 

[PhatOrange]

Idk. It’s almost like he’s being so careful to put touch on the ball and make a perfect throw he’s underthrowing it. Like playing cornhole. Noticed he was throwing off his back foot to. Doesn’t step into passes. It was hard for me to think he has an arm injury because it looked like a lot of his throws last year. If he stepped into the butler throw and led him it might be 6.

I personally thought he looked slower running today than normal. Like running in sand.

 

[kcsu]

Idk. It’s almost like he’s being so careful to put touch on the ball and make a perfect throw he’s underthrowing it. Like playing cornhole. Noticed he was throwing off his back foot to. Doesn’t step into passes. It was hard for me to think he has an arm injury because it looked like a lot of his throws last year. If he stepped into the butler throw and led him it might be 6.

I personally thought he looked slower running today than normal. Like running in sand.

He did look slower. I think he has a shoulder injury. He looks off.

 

[Trueblue25]

Wasn’t going to mention it but he looked like he was hurting in the 2nd half.

 

[OrangeDW]

Get that W next week and then he’s got a week off to hopefully heal up a bit for the second half.

 

[SarasotaPaul]

He is definitely not throwing the ball the same and his running looks very tentative. He has to be hurting in multiple areas.

 

[GoSU96]

Its as plain as day that Eric is hurt. He was "shot putting" his throws. It looks as if the shoulder injury Bees has mentioned is significant.

That's his basic motion.

 

[raf4488]

IDK, that throw to Taj Harris in the first half was right on the money. Maybe he's banged up but he can still throw a good ball

 

[anomander]

He definitely missed some throws that should have been made, especially that one hopper to Nykeim is a crucial situation. I don't like to go there because the kid is such a warrior, but i think this offense operates at a much higher level with Devito out there today.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

I don’t think he’s the same ED. Even in the last game I noticed a difference. The guy is so tuf. Played a half against Miami with a broken foot

 

[Crusty]

I think you guys are right and I suspect Clemson thought so as well. They basically took him out of the run game with a spy and they didn't make the mistake of letting their pass rush get pushed past him.

He had 11 yards on 13 carries. They obviously were willing to let him pass but not run. He got stuffed on every designed run.

The quick out is not his best throw but he doesn't throw it in the dirt.

Something is not quite right.

 

[gmoney44]

Ya, he looks banged up. No zip on his throws, he looks a step slow and he isn’t running with power on the QB keepers minus the two back to back runs for the score in the 3rd. Maybe we let Pitt prepare for Dungey all week and trot out TD Saturday for the start and give Eric 2 weeks to heal up a bit.

 

[Newhouser]

I think good teams are going to follow the same plan. Beat us with your arm not your legs. His footwork and mechanics yesterday were not great. Consistent throws is not his greatest gift.

 

[CousCuse]

I think good teams are going to follow the same plan. Beat us with your arm not your legs. His footwork and mechanics yesterday were not great. Consistent throws is not his greatest gift.

Clemson is not a good team, They are a super elite team with talent equal to Alabama and Ohio State.

 

[rrlbees]

Its as plain as day that Eric is hurt. He was "shot putting" his throws. It looks as if the shoulder injury Bees has mentioned is significant.

That was early on. I thought as of last week he was ok. Maybe it still bothers him.

 

[Cusefan78]

Eric is a winner plain and simple but he has always had a weak arm and isn’t very accurate. This arm injury thing is definitely showing the weak aspects in his game.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Eric looked slower because Clemson is so much faster and athletic compared to the teams we played the first four weeks. That includes FSU.

 

[Crusty]

Clemson is not a good team, They are a super elite team with talent equal to Alabama and Ohio State.

You may be right but I am thinking the opposite. They aren't as good as the National Championship team. Bryant was a significant step down from Watson, which is why Dabo went with Lawrence. Without an elite QB you can't get into playoffs.

Clemson is not the explosive threat they have been in past years.

 

[TheKid]

Eric is a winner plain and simple but he has always had a weak arm and isn’t very accurate. This arm injury thing is definitely showing the weak aspects in his game.

I agree. He just looks weird out there most of the time lately. Sloppy footwork, inaccurate short throws, hes not 100% for sure. Love the guy but wondering if we see TD next week to let him rest up.

 

[RMH44]

I think you guys are right and I suspect Clemson thought so as well. They basically took him out of the run game with a spy and they didn't make the mistake of letting their pass rush get pushed past him.

He had 11 yards on 13 carries. They obviously were willing to let him pass but not run. He got stuffed on every designed run.

The quick out is not his best throw but he doesn't throw it in the dirt.

Something is not quite right.

Yep, they put a "spy" him the entire game and let their elite Dline create havoc...and for the most part, it worked.

Thankfully, no team left on the schedule, with the possible exception of ND, has the personnel to successfully implement the same plan.

 

[CousCuse]

You may be right but I am thinking the opposite. They aren't as good as the National Championship team. Bryant was a significant step down from Watson, which is why Dabo went with Lawrence. Without an elite QB you can't get into playoffs.

Clemson is not the explosive threat they have been in past years.

Syracuse is a very, very good team. They would have beat Syracuse with Kelly as their starter and they would have gone undefeated to the playoffs with him as their starter and that's the point Dabo should have been prepping Lawrence to be ready for. Slayton and company are some hard men to start a skinny little freshman against.

 

[Cusefan0307]

His arm looked fine on the throw to Custis in the first half. I thought it was the best it’s looked all year.

 

[Crusty]

Eric looked slower because Clemson is so much faster and athletic compared to the teams we played the first four weeks. That includes FSU.

Not sure I would say it exactly that way. Dungey ran well against them last year. They changed their scheme to deal with his running ability (but that plan only works if you have an elite secondary). Not exactly transferable to any other ACC team.

He actually is a fairly accurate passer. Hard to say 64% season average completion pct. is not accurate. Yesterday, he was 27 for 41 for 250 yards (6.1 avg.).

Clearly not his best game but for a few passes he spun it ok. The issue to me is what happened on those passes. Was it just a few poor throws out of 41 or did it have something to do with a physical problem. The fact they occurred late in the game makes me wonder.

Bye week can't come soon enough.

 

[Crusty]

Yep, they put a "spy" him the entire game and let their elite Dline create havoc...and for the most part, it worked.

Thankfully, no team left on the schedule, with the possible exception of ND, has the personnel to successfully implement the same plan.

Exactly. If you can't play cover zero, don't try it!