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Message: [QUOTE="ECE '76, post: 5589172, member: 8656"] For all the whining about losing the starting QB, I don't see how that had anything to do with how awful and useless the defense was. Teams ran wild through the DL and were GONE to the end zone. It was pathetic. That is incompetent coaching flat out. I don't see Don Brown as having saved anything either. You can look at the all time worst defenses in SU FB history - the final Schwartzwalder years, Jim Goodfellow, GRob, Chuck Bullough, Brian Ward - none were as bad as what we just saw. I mean really BAD. I seriously question whether Fran Brown knows how to hire a competent coaching staff, and to lead it. [/QUOTE]