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[QUOTE="Shrmdougluvr, post: 4993978, member: 396"]
I dont know?  I'm not tall (6;0"), but have longer arms.  I also worked a job that required lots of bucket and box lifting and moving (so I had really good grip strength and stablizing muscles then- now I'm just a fat guy that works in an office).  There was a summer when my girlfriend and I were apart and I lived in area with night life, so I basically spent every night hammering out sets of push ups and pull ups, on top of my job which was physical, and my daily lifting, so as to not get myself "in trouble."  I'd watch TV and a commerical would come on and I'd hit a set.  Or i'd play video games and every ten minutes or so I'd hit a set.  The cumulative effect is substantial.

I remember being jealous of the kids I went to the gym with getting up the three plates, then they would watch me rip through sets with like 185 or 205 and would tell me I should be able to max a lot more then i did.  (I could also do sets comfortably with 225 [like 5x 10 or 12]).  I could close grip quite a bit too for sets.  I just never felt right with heavy heavy weight in my hands.  I played baseball in college with a guy who was a Kansas state powerlifting champ as a high schooler.  He was jacked and ripped.  I couldnt touch him when he'd work through his pyramid.  But for lighter weight and reps, I kept up.

I'm not a gym guy now, and have no exercise training experience, but I think some of these kids would be better off spending an hour a night wrestling really hard or working on a farm all summer.  The strongest people I've met are wrestlers and farmers (and the guys who worked on the feed trucks at the horse track).
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