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Message: [QUOTE="RandomGuy, post: 4451169, member: 6422"] LOL!! A complete newb CAN gain a lot of muscle. The guys that have been lifting for years? Arogon NATURAL lean muscle mass model says an experienced lifter can gain .25% to .50% of muscle a month. A 200lber, can 1/2 lbs to 1 lbs muscle a month. Now take out 4 or 5 months for the season. 4lbs to 8lbs MAX for 8 months. Only 10 years to add that 40lbs for guys that genetically gain less mass. [/QUOTE]